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    It may help if you didn't only look for information on such things from pro-aethiest /anti-religion sites Thorne and instead stuck to academic sources....your so far off base claiming the Exodus is completely fictitious and couldn't have happened it isn't even funny.

    Is it contested? Yes.

    Why is it still contested?

    There is a long standing schism between the narrow minded fuddy duddies in the field who simply can't stomach anything in the Bible as being construed as right and a much more open minded group who has often found a root of truth in most myths and legends of the ancient world.

    I would put more faith in the open minded group if I were you...afterall...they discovered whats now commonly believed to be Troy, the Hittites, Babylon, perhaps even Atlantis and the most likely site for the Garden of Eden itself etc etc.

    And all with fully supported cross disciplinary peer reviewed science!

    Early mistakes in interpretations of the dates in the Torah lead to a narrow focus within the field to search for evidence in one very narrow window of time.

    Collaborating data from other periods however (proved the earlier assumptions about the dates were indeed wrong) and corresponding periods have shown that a group of non-eygptian people did in fact live in lower Egypt and left during a time of well documented great calamity (most likely brought on by the eruption of Thera in combination with a terrible series of droughts and other terrible things some of which match the "10 plages" in great detail ) who subsequently migrated into Cannan (becoming a huge well documented pain in their assess instead).
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    Quote Originally Posted by denuseri View Post
    There is a long standing schism between the narrow minded fuddy duddies in the field who simply can't stomach anything in the Bible as being construed as right and a much more open minded group who has often found a root of truth in most myths and legends of the ancient world.
    There is usually a root of truth in all myths and legends. Story tellers take a normal but unusual occurrence and start adding bells and whistles until you have the makings of a rollicking tale of wonder. The problems start when people start accepting the story as true rather than just a story.

    Yes, there were several groups of people who left Egypt at times, for various reasons. They weren't slaves, and they weren't Hebrews, although they may have been the group which eventually became the Hebrews. Most assuredly there weren't millions of them and they didn't spend 40 years in one of the most desolate wastelands on the planet. Kernels of truth, inflated like popcorn to fuel the myth. But people aren't worshiping the truth, they worship the myth!

    It's the same with the Ark stories. There are similar stories all over the world, because people tended to build their cities near water, which sometimes flooded, sometimes catastrophically. That doesn't mean there was a world-wide flood that wiped out all but a handful of people. And it doesn't make all those fools spending their money searching Mount Ararat "open minded". They are far more concerned with proving the myth than with finding the truth behind the myth.

    Certainly there are historical people and places in the Bible. Most good authors will include such things in their fictions. They add a certain degree of believability to the tales. But just because someone has located a place that, with a lot of imagination, just might resemble the Biblical description of Eden, doesn't mean that the human race was started there by two people who suddenly realized they had no clothes. Just because a Roman governor named Pontius Pilate actually ruled in Judea in the first century doesn't mean that he condemned an itinerant rabbi to crucifixion and that rabbi was miraculously raised from the dead according to prophecy. Especially when those telling the tale have to distort the truth so immensely to try to fit those prophecies, even though the prophecies weren't intended as prophecy!

    So yes, use the Bible as a starting point to find the bits of truth behind the myths. Don't use it as proof that the myth is truth.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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