Quote Originally Posted by ksst View Post
I'd prefer to look at just about anybody's porn site rather than peta's. They are a bunch of wackos who do not stand for animal welfare, but for animal rights, which is an entirely different thing. And the leadership has the stated goal of the elimination of domestic animals.

I don't think veganism is a great thing either.
I had not caught on to that difference, wellfare versus rights, will look into that. Off hand 'rights' sound better.