Guantanamo Redux

[denuseri]

Yes Americans do use it for training....trainning for resistance when captured and tortured.

As for humane treatment of prisoners or other people detained during time of war. Alltough our own apparent bad behavior in this department may have a lot of people peeved off (and the torture in my oppinion is unexcusable) its an unrealistic expectation on the part of the general public that we give "trials" and or just let them go. Over the past several decades we havent done any big time long term wars so I think we the general public (with a little help from the liberally biased media) clearly are certianly out of touch with the idea of keeping captured and suspected combatants out of the picture.

But the precedent is still there and I certianly havent heard any better solutions proffered up that still give us any security, just letting them all go doesnt cut the mustard. Historically we detained our own Italian, Japanese and German citizens during world war 2. In the case of the Germans it went on allmost a year after the war was over.

One thing however is for certian, the treatment we give them is by far better than anthing they met out to us when we get captured or abducted by them. I havent seen any beheadings on our side of this of late have you?

[DuncanONeil]

There wer about 500 camps with german detainees inside the US!!
The issue of "torture" is one solely of definition. Very few of us will ever agree on a complete definition.

Yes Americans do use it for training....trainning for resistance when captured and tortured.

As for humane treatment of prisoners or other people detained during time of war. Alltough our own apparent bad behavior in this department may have a lot of people peeved off (and the torture in my oppinion is unexcusable) its an unrealistic expectation on the part of the general public that we give "trials" and or just let them go. Over the past several decades we havent done any big time long term wars so I think we the general public (with a little help from the liberally biased media) clearly are certianly out of touch with the idea of keeping captured and suspected combatants out of the picture.

But the precedent is still there and I certianly havent heard any better solutions proffered up that still give us any security, just letting them all go doesnt cut the mustard. Historically we detained our own Italian, Japanese and German citizens during world war 2. In the case of the Germans it went on allmost a year after the war was over.

One thing however is for certian, the treatment we give them is by far better than anthing they met out to us when we get captured or abducted by them. I havent seen any beheadings on our side of this of late have you?

[steelish]

Yes Americans do use it for training....trainning for resistance when captured and tortured.

As for humane treatment of prisoners or other people detained during time of war. Alltough our own apparent bad behavior in this department may have a lot of people peeved off (and the torture in my oppinion is unexcusable) its an unrealistic expectation on the part of the general public that we give "trials" and or just let them go. Over the past several decades we havent done any big time long term wars so I think we the general public (with a little help from the liberally biased media) clearly are certianly out of touch with the idea of keeping captured and suspected combatants out of the picture.

But the precedent is still there and I certianly havent heard any better solutions proffered up that still give us any security, just letting them all go doesnt cut the mustard. Historically we detained our own Italian, Japanese and German citizens during world war 2. In the case of the Germans it went on allmost a year after the war was over.

One thing however is for certian, the treatment we give them is by far better than anthing they met out to us when we get captured or abducted by them. I havent seen any beheadings on our side of this of late have you?

How true. And think, "inhumane" treatment is defined differently for each individual. Many US prisoners have sued over "inhumane" treatment and "personal rights" issues and been granted everything from free education and cable television, to gourmet meals and private cells. Besides, the prisoners in gtmo KNOW of the U.S. "humane" treatments and work the system accordingly. They view it (some of them) as a weakness and exploit it to suit their purposes.

[DuncanONeil]

Actually the detainees in GTMO, even without some of the amenities accorded US prisoners, have a more humane detention as they do not have to worry about gangs in the cells!

The only reasonable prisoner dention system in the US is the one run by Sheriff Arpaio!

How true. And think, "inhumane" treatment is defined differently for each individual. Many US prisoners have sued over "inhumane" treatment and "personal rights" issues and been granted everything from free education and cable television, to gourmet meals and private cells. Besides, the prisoners in gtmo KNOW of the U.S. "humane" treatments and work the system accordingly. They view it (some of them) as a weakness and exploit it to suit their purposes.

[steelish]

Actually the detainees in GTMO, even without some of the amenities accorded US prisoners, have a more humane detention as they do not have to worry about gangs in the cells!

The only reasonable prisoner dention system in the US is the one run by Sheriff Arpaio!

Amen to that! I applaud him!!!