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[denuseri]

Well then since we wish to equate Brittian with Rome, than perhaps the USA is the new Constantinople?

We seem to be the dominant topic of allmost every political discussion on these forums. But that is spurious I am sure since this is primarally an english speaking site.

Spiritually? I fail to see where that came from? Whats Catholisim got to do with it? I thought GB went with its own church anyways....If one thinks, that having freedom of religion inheriently gives liscense to such I suppose so then, but I do believe that religion isnt what I am implying. (at least out side of a religious position as propogators of a Neo-Crusades) At least not yet, The Romans and classical weastern society did have all sorts of religious freedom compared to their counterparts, at least until the adoption of christianity (in that the USA is still very much "republicanized" in the roman sence as opposed to imperial). Though I do suppose if one means the USA acts as the moral compass for religious freedom and tolerance...shurgs idk

Politically however:

We are called upon to be the worlds defender and police force , the world economy is dependent upon our markets in a way, sometimes quite directly, there is no other country in the world that dictates poliecy to us, it is allways the other way around (at least since we took the riegns from Brittan during WW2). Etc etc, the list goes on.... all things Rome and then later Constantinople once did in thier day and age.

All besides the point, I shall restate the question more clearly since there is obvious confussion.

Has the USA become too imperial with the rest of the world?

If we truely wish to be a "New Rome" than do we also not have the same implied nessesity of establishing wise dominion, so as to at least avoid the pitfalls of complancency that lead to Romes fall? (Or any Empire/nation etc)

[DuncanONeil]

I would have to say no. I am sure some disagree but the US has not "imposed" its own way of being as Rome did!

Has the USA become too imperial with the rest of the world?

If we truely wish to be a "New Rome" than do we also not have the same implied nessesity of establishing wise dominion, so as to at least avoid the pitfalls of complancency that lead to Romes fall? (Or any Empire/nation etc)

[MMI]

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[MMI]

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OK, as there seems to be a pause for thought in this thread, I am posting this message as an aside and for information's sake (not as a corrective). In addition to Texas and Hawaii, California, Vermont and New Hampshire have also been independent nations, and it is now inconceivable that any of them would be allowed to leave the Union, not even to join Canada, regardless of what the treaties by which they joined originally said.

[Thorne]

Posted by mistake.

[DuncanONeil]

OK, as there seems to be a pause for thought in this thread, I am posting this message as an aside and for information's sake (not as a corrective). In addition to Texas and Hawaii, California, Vermont and New Hampshire have also been independent nations, and it is now inconceivable that any of them would be allowed to leave the Union, not even to join Canada, regardless of what the treaties by which they joined originally said.

In spite of what many people think Texas never retained the right to leave the Union at its own desire. It can however subdivide into smaller states!