A movie that made you mad ???

[Laila]

To be honest... and I know a lot will disagree with me, lol my own Master very much disagrees with me but for me its 'Secretary'.

I hate how it seems to imply that dominance stems from being the one trodden on in a previous marriage and submission stems from an utter inability live your life properly and works well as a substitute of cutting oneself.

Nothing against women like that and its lovely that these two in the film found each other but it so cements the view that there must be something wrong with you to be into Bdsm.

[Pearlgem]

To be honest... and I know a lot will disagree with me, lol my own Master very much disagrees with me but for me its 'Secretary'.

I hate how it seems to imply that dominance stems from being the one trodden on in a previous marriage and submission stems from an utter inability live your life properly and works well as a substitute of cutting oneself.

Nothing against women like that and its lovely that these two in the film found each other but it so cements the view that there must be something wrong with you to be into Bdsm.

I largely agree with you, L. While the D/s in 'Secretary' is portrayed as life-enhancing for Dom and sub in many ways, they just had to make her a cutter and a bit of a sad sack at the beginning. To me, it's copping out, being slightly afraid to tell a more 'shocking' truth - that Doms and subs can come to this lifestyle from positions of strength and joy.

I HATE 'Blue Velvet'! Okay, it's hardly SSC or even RACK, with a husband and child held hostage and a psychopathic 'Dom', and there are some undoubtedly sexy bits of the, 'Ooh, I shouldn't like this but I do' variety, but what was she all about?? He was just a dangerous nutter, but was she supposed to be portrayed with any degree of sensitivity for her mysterious urges? Is this how submissive/masochistic women are viewed, that they desire any old abuse and crap from depraved monsters? She had the same urges as you and me, sisters, but enjoying pain during sex doesn't necessarily catapult you into this hellish twilight zone of abuse and depravity, not unless you want it to! Once again, to my mind a cop out, a version of the truth to titilate and confirm vanilla prejudices.

[walkingdude225]

I Once again, to my mind a cop out, a version of the truth to titilate and confirm vanilla prejudices.

You make a good point, do you think most of these bad images are from prejudices or is when someone who is into bdsm gets to create something edgy they get carried away and they dont think of the backlash?

[sinderella]

To be honest... and I know a lot will disagree with me, lol my own Master very much disagrees with me but for me its 'Secretary'.

i didn't focus on her being a cutter, and i don't think it said ALL subs were like her - it was just HER story. Edward wasn't a Dominant because of his previous marriage - he just WAS, and it didn't leave you thinking ALL Dominants are created because of bad circumstances. i took the film at face value - just two people who happened to find each other, and one happened to be a natural-born submissive and the other happened to be a natural-born Dominant. and when they did find each other, it was bliss, which the film more than adequately portrayed. to me, stereotypes are showing people wearing and holding all of the trappings and artifacts of the BDSM lifestyle and painting them in black&white strokes - the Dominant is a hedonistic sadist and the submissive is a simpering glutton for punishment. this film did not portray them that way at all. yes, they each had their personality quirks (his obsession with correct punctuation and typos) and her fascination with cutting herself. but all people, regardless of their walk of life, can exhibit these same characteristics, and the film didn't say, to me, that these people were like this because of their Dominance and submission. i thought it was a great film and it spoke to the submissive in me in a very meaningful and beautiful way.