Quote Originally Posted by vicmal96 View Post
I don't understand this at all. It's a tree, and apples grow on it, hopefully, in good weather, if properly pollinated. What's that got to do with God?
Do you mean that god does the creation and sets things in mortion, and then it works or not works, according to - what? His laws?

It is simply an illutration. We are sinners not because we DO sin but because it is in our nature to sin. It is THAT nature that God changes when a person becomes saved.
But then why did he not create us so we do not sin from the start?? This is what I do not understand.
It seems to imply that the first try did not work?

He keeps punishing because people keep making the same choices. Choices He has given other alternatives for. But read the rest of the verse..... He blesses to the 1000th generation of those that love God.
But then why not undo the whole thing, and make good people instead? It would certainly be a blessing for humanity!

What good is Hell? I have never understood that either.

Again, thank you for trying to help.