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    I have to agree with MMI on this one, because without a uniform grammar, books would be in a hell of a mess. If grammar and speech belonged to the individual I believe we would need translators for the translators.

    I will give you an example; I was talking to my daughter and a friend of hers the other day. He walked off after a few minutes and was talking his gibberish to one of his own, the so called “Chaves.” I then asked my daughter what the hell he had been talking about, and she translated. The “Chav,” had been talking in a cut off English and I mean a shortening of words. After she explained I realised that if this “2012 Chav” or dick head, that was straight out of school had written his conversation down on paper, it would have read like a text message.

    The English language and grammar is one of the hardest in the world to learn. Yet the multitude of countries in the world, are now starting to have it as a second language. The English language and its grammar that is there for a reason, is now being eroded away by these “Chav’s, Rappers, and anyone else that has a problem with society.

    If you need a real experience of the erosion, go onto Yahoo home page and read some of the posts in reference to the news stories. The erosion of grammar in writing or speech will always have an element of uneducated stupidity or laziness that arrives with it. The ones that do look half sensible are normally wrong, because in their attempt to look intelligent on paper they have used Microsoft word, cut and paste.

    Anyone that does the amount of writing I do, knows that Microsoft word/grammar is not 100%. It is for that reason I have an editor for all my books, and on occasions he has had some choice words that he has shared with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAN 2411 View Post
    I have to agree with MMI on this one, because without a uniform grammar, books would be in a hell of a mess. If grammar and speech belonged to the individual I believe we would need translators for the translators.

    Be well IAN 2411
    Grammar and speech does in fact belong to the individual, because grammer is simply a description on how people talk. That was how it started, the scolars way back started to gather information on how people talked, and compiled this information into a 'grammar'. Nobody made it up, and made everybody speak like that.

    A language is defined among other things as something a number of people agree on and can use among themselves to understand each other. If that were not the case, no one could talk with each other. Neither the article nor I suggest that each person suddenly decide to invent their own - it would not be a language.
    What I say is that there is no real 'tick-list' for 'correct' language, only a snap-shot on how it is talked now, and that is changing. ('Snap-shot' taken with a grain of salt, as language takes time to change.)

    Grammar was not a sort of divine intervention, given to mankind, and to be obeyed to the letter - sorry, could not resist that ;-).

    It is made of how we all talk, and no board or scholar owns it.

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