Time, death and the universe

[IAN 2411]

Why not? Don't you know where and when you were born? If you're one of those who does not, wouldn't you like to know?

The date I was born was 1947 ad JC. That is undeniable. Now if I was born in 1973 ad JFK recognised worldwide, then I might be younger but it would still be undeniable. I know I am this age because it is an Earth measurement of age and time [“Note” not a universal measurement]. A universal measurement that is most than likely worked out in a word that has never been invented yet, because the scientists have no idea whether the one is correct that they are using on earth.

But why do all the planets revolve around the sun in the same direction? Why does the sun keep burning, keeping us alive? Don't you think this kind of question is important? Or at least, interesting?

I was always under the impression that the magnetic pull of the sun held them where they where and moved them at different speeds in a clockwise rotation, or if you are looking at it from underneath anti-clockwise. If the planets were travelling the other way at the start [Big Bang] we would still, be going forward but in a different direction. Yes, you are corect, the same question, why?

Does that idea scare you? Why? Again, I'd rather know that the end was coming, so I could prepare myself for it.

No it doesn’t scare me, but neither do I want to know the day when I stick my head between my legs and kiss my ass goodbye.

But without this kind of knowledge, understanding the basic forces that make the universe work, we wouldn't be having this conversation on computers, or cell phones. Without the search for knowledge we would still be sitting around the fire in our caves, trembling at the howling of the wind, living out our short but violent lives in fear and ignorance.

Communications has nothing to do with trying to unravel what happened so many whatever, when the Big Bang took place. Finding the source or the why the Big Bang took place has no possible use to mankind, it is a useless bit of information that the minority want to know, for whatever reason if it is only to satisfy their sad mind.

No doubt there is another planet somewhere that is closer to the eye where the Big Bang took place, and a trillions years ahead of Earths technology, and with their own sad cases looking for the same answer.

Who knows? One thing for sure, if you DON'T do the experiment it definitely WON'T help the world.

Neither is there the chance of it messing it up.

If there were a god he could just instill all this knowledge into us, and we wouldn't have to do the experiments. But your God wasn't even bright enough to inform his chosen people that it might be a good idea to wash their fucking hands before they ate!

My God!!! You have no idea who or what my god is...for all you know it was your god that fucked up...whatever or whoever that is...? Don’t make assumptions based on your own beliefs.

But wouldn't it be nice to actually KNOW that there is no hell? That it was all a lie told by evil people to control the ignorant? Do you know how many people actually live out their lives in terror of doing something stupidly silly that will send them off to hell, because it might offend their "loving" god?

It is their belief and if that is the way they want to live then so be it, it does not bother me and neither do they. Why is it right for a person that has no beliefs to prove disbelief to another? I think that the only persons that wish to find out if there really is a hell or a heaven to disprove the theory are the ones that truly believe in their existence, but are hoping they are wrong.

I have to disagree. Ignorance is NEVER a blessing. And this is far from spooky.

Bullshit; Do you, really think that if my wife knew 12 years before she died, that if her suffering in immense pain every day for 12 years would still end in death no matter what? Do you honestly think in your mind that she would have fought so hard to live?

Be well IAN 2411

[Thorne]

I know I am this age because it is an Earth measurement of age and time.

We agree on this, certainly.The way we measure time is an artificial construct of humanity. It has no meaning anywhere else in the universe.

I was always under the impression that the magnetic pull of the sun held them where they where and moved them at different speeds in a clockwise rotation, or if you are looking at it from underneath anti-clockwise. If the planets were travelling the other way at the start [Big Bang] we would still, be going forward but in a different direction.

Gravity, not magnetism, and the Sun and planets came long after the Big Bang, but otherwise correct. Again, many of these concepts are man-made, to help us understand and communicate ideas better.

Communications has nothing to do with trying to unravel what happened so many whatever, when the Big Bang took place.

No, but it has a lot to do with quantum physics and subatomic particles. And even before that, it had to do with learning new things, new ways to communicate. Many of those ideas were wrong, and many had unexpected benefits. But if you don't try to learn, you don't find any of those benefits.

Finding the source or the why the Big Bang took place has no possible use to mankind, it is a useless bit of information that the minority want to know, for whatever reason if it is only to satisfy their sad mind.

Something you cannot possibly know. A valid opinion, yes, but without knowing what we might learn along the way, failing to even try is guaranteeing that we'll never know.

My God!!! You have no idea who or what my god is...for all you know it was your god that fucked up...whatever or whoever that is...? Don’t make assumptions based on your own beliefs.

You're right, I made an assumption. My apologies. But you also are assuming that I have a god. I do not.

Why is it right for a person that has no beliefs to prove disbelief to another?

Questioning belief is not the same as trying to prove disbelief, whatever that means.

Bullshit; Do you, really think that if my wife knew 12 years before she died, that if her suffering in immense pain every day for 12 years would still end in death no matter what? Do you honestly think in your mind that she would have fought so hard to live?

I didn't know your wife, and I'm sorry to have brought such tender memories to the surface. I can only guess that, since she spent those 12 years fighting, she must have felt there was something worth fighting for.