Excellent posts thir, that makes so much sense, I was orriginally going to post back to brneyedgirl that if we swapped genders, I could say the very same thing, but then I got to thinking about it. Mostly, I thought of that Mic Jagger song, "You Can't always get What You Want.." And then I thought it came down to appreciating what I have instead of dwelling on what I don't. She is an incredible wife. I just feel sometimes I went about things the wrong way even though I tried to introduce her to it form the onset of our relationship, no secrets if you know what I mean. She originally thought she would love the dominant role so I think there's hope. I just have to find the right way to approach it.