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    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    If Mccain wins we have 4 more years of Bush Polucy as MCcAin has supported 95% of all Bush Policies
    Really hard to discuss on a cogent basis politics when tired political talking points are the only thing being used. To say that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is absurd. McCain has been known for years as going his own way, he thought about leaving the RP because of his beliefs not being mainstream Republican and he is not well thought of here in Arizona amongst conservatives because of his tendency to reach across the aisle and support non conservative issues. I am not a big fan of McCain for his tendency to compromise conservative principles, but out of the 2 choices, he is the better choice for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    What impresses me, is after Barack got his College DEgree, he turned down countless "Wall Strreet" Job offer with Golden Parachutes, but chose instead to return to Chicago and work in the Inter City, haven't hear MccAin do anything like that
    I wold tend to agree with you there about McCain not serving as a community organizer hobnobbing with the likes of Rezko (sp?), McCain was busy serving in the military defending the right to free speech in his younger days.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    The REality is, when Clinton left office we HAD a $450 Billion Dollar SURRPLUS and Gas was only $1.75 a gallon,
    If you look beyond the political talking points again, you will find that most of the Clinton 'surplus' was achieved by removing money from the SS Genral Fund and was nothing more than an accounting manuever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertDom View Post
    Really hard to discuss on a cogent basis politics when tired political talking points are the only thing being used. To say that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is absurd. McCain has been known for years as going his own way, he thought about leaving the RP because of his beliefs not being mainstream Republican and he is not well thought of here in Arizona amongst conservatives because of his tendency to reach across the aisle and support non conservative issues. I am not a big fan of McCain for his tendency to compromise conservative principles, but out of the 2 choices, he is the better choice for me.



    I wold tend to agree with you there about McCain not serving as a community organizer hobnobbing with the likes of Rezko (sp?), McCain was busy serving in the military defending the right to free speech in his younger days.



    If you look beyond the political talking points again, you will find that most of the Clinton 'surplus' was achieved by removing money from the SS Genral Fund and was nothing more than an accounting manuever.

    ok i will give you that, but so have milloins of other in the service Mccain is/was not the only servinbg our coutry to defend our right nor was he the only POW we ever had, THIS IS IN NO WAY TO DISCREDIT HIM for what he did and went through
    Bush only served in the Texas National Guard
    I have no issue exceot that Mccain as President to me, is 4 more years of Bush Policies, he has recently tried to distance himself from BUsh, BIG MISTAKE he should have done that MONTHS AGO and not waited til he was a far behind in the Polls ect as he is now, distancing him now to me was nothingf more then a Politcal move based on his past support of Bush, andwithout sounded sexist which iam sure is how this will come out
    I think he made a HUGE Mistake is selecting Palin,It was said he did this to attrack Clinton Followers, I seriously doubt alot of her followers would support him, since Palin and Clinton Politicaly are as differnet as summner and winter, but this is just my opnion
    and i real apprciate your remarks and comments on thisthread

    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertDom View Post
    Really hard to discuss on a cogent basis politics when tired political talking points are the only thing being used. To say that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is absurd. McCain has been known for years as going his own way, he thought about leaving the RP because of his beliefs not being mainstream Republican and he is not well thought of here in Arizona amongst conservatives because of his tendency to reach across the aisle and support non conservative issues. I am not a big fan of McCain for his tendency to compromise conservative principles, but out of the 2 choices, he is the better choice for me.



    I wold tend to agree with you there about McCain not serving as a community organizer hobnobbing with the likes of Rezko (sp?), McCain was busy serving in the military defending the right to free speech in his younger days.



    If you look beyond the political talking points again, you will find that most of the Clinton 'surplus' was achieved by removing money from the SS Genral Fund and was nothing more than an accounting manuever.
    even if that WAS thecase, we never the less have almost a Trilloin Dollar deficit right now, the largst in UnistedStates Histiry and oil has gone from $35 a Barrel with cliton to as high as $145 with Bush now back down to about $70 no commodity in US Histry has ever gone up that much in 8 years, if so kindly tell me which one, i have heard omtheradio from Commodities Brokers who said over the last 8 years no commodity has ever gone up 150% in 8 years much less oil
    Mccain may have "gone his own way" but he suupported the Iraq invasion, he supported the Tx Rebates, almost every Bill that Bush has signed he has agreed with

    Actualy Ron Paul would have been a great choice

    Let's have Ron Paul as a Democrat and let the Republicans have Joe Liberman, who to me anyway is a Party Traitor but that is only my opnion

    thanks again for all your replies and feeback

    I for one will be THRILLED after November 4 is over, just to have it over, enough is enough already

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkemse View Post
    Let's have Ron Paul as a Democrat and let the Republicans have Joe Liberman, who to me anyway is a Party Traitor but that is only my opnion
    The treatment of Leiberman by the Democrat Party was despicable in my opinion.

    He disagreed with the party-line on a single issue and had the moral courage to stick with his convictions, so they go after him politically. Is there actually no room for disagreement with the party-line? Is it really all-or-nothing?

    I've never heard of the Republican Party doing something like that. In fact, my own Representative is a Republican and voted against the surge -- he didn't think it was a good idea. There were no political repercussions -- the Party didn't withdraw their support and throw it behind a challenger for his seat.

    You know, believe it or not, I self-identified for years with the Democrat Party -- and it's crap like their treatment of Leiberman and Zel Miller that drove me away.

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